On May 13, residents of the Bryansk region began to report the downing of helicopters and planes. The head of the region confirmed the crash of a single helicopter. Kommersant writes that an air group of two Mi-8s, Su-34 and Su-35, flying on a mission in the Chernihiv region of Ukraine, was shot down. Military correspondents and pro-military telegram channels were the first to report it. What they write about what happened is in the material of Russian media.
Voenkor Yuri kitten :
“The enemy has moved to a new phase of DTA (sabotage and terrorist acts).”
Journalist Andrei Medvedev :
“The modern offensive does not consist of thousands of columns of tanks, led by General Von Bock with a monocle. It is exactly like that.
Lugansk yesterday, a blow to our Air Force today. Feel the defense. Where it breaks. And strikes from the rear, infrastructure and aviation. A hundred times they said live and wrote – the enemy has air defense, the enemy may have a weak air force, but long-range missiles will replace it.
There is no need to panic now. Conclusions must be drawn. Especially those who think that flight routes should not be changed so that documents are not rewritten.
Yes there is. Well, you need to prepare even more seriously for the offensive. Here he is, crawling.”
Voenkor Andrei Rudenko :
“Two Mi-8s, one Su-34 and one Su-25 were lost. Tragedy… They beat me near the border of the Russian Federation and most likely with air-to-air missiles. It seems to me that we will soon hear that the West is ready to transfer F-16s to Ukraine in sufficient quantities. After all, it is not for nothing that Ukrainian pilots have been trained for almost a year. In fact, very probably the planes are already in operation in Ukraine … And on the question of how the enemy finds out what and where we are flying, everything is very simple – they have a lot of eyes around the airfields, and any program sees satellite flights .
Military blogger, former military pilot fighter-bomber :
“There have been no such losses in our air force as today since March last year.”
Military chain”turned War Z » :
“Our aviation group was ambushed. The guys of the Eternal Flight, responsible for the border – a one-point shoot. And yes, they launched rockets (AFU) from the Chernihiv region, almost approaching from the state border.
Telegram channel “Overheard Klintsy” / TASS
Military chain”Rybar » :
“A rainy day for the Russian Air Force <…> Our version on the use of AIM-120 fighters by the Air Force for an ambush is only one version. The version that an air defense system was withdrawn from the side of the enemy directly on the border, who fought back and returned home, is much more pessimistic and I do not want to believe it from the word “completely”.
Military chain”Older than Edda » :
“The most unpleasant thing about today’s events in the Bryansk region is that someone’s malicious intent (except the enemy, of course) is in principle not necessary for them. It is enough just to want to live comfortably, not to change combat documents, and to let groups of approximately the same composition go stably in the same directions <…>
Patterns of combat use that have become routine are no less dangerous, even if you are fighting the barmaley. And our enemy is a regular army with the support of the strongest military bloc in the world.
By acting against this enemy in a stereotypical and predictable way, we will only simplify his task, and complicate it infinitely for ourselves.
Blogger Ilya Kramnik :
“The model is generally useful, it makes production, planning and generally simplifies life where you constantly have to do a significant amount of work. But in conditions where the enemy is diligently studying your actions and looking for ways to prevent them, he is deadly. … Yes, the Russian air force, actively using guided munitions, the volume of supply of which has increased, began to seriously interfere with the actions of the Ukrainian armed forces. It would be strange to assume that the enemy, with the intelligence capabilities of NATO, will not seek to counterattack.
military journalist Roman Saponkov :
“The version that a DRG group shot down 50 km from the border is even more gruesome. Next time they will shoot down the board of directors of the special theft team “Russia” in the middle of Sheremetyevo.
Telegram channel “Overheard Klintsy” / TASS
Leader of the group of military advisers “Tsar’s Wolves” Dmitry Rogozin :
“Did you notice how high the downed helicopters were flying? In the front line! Were they at the parade? I was trained in piloting by military aviation aces. As someone who has flown on a vertical as a PIC for hundreds of hours, I would like to say that flights in such areas, even on the so-called. the “minimum safe” altitude (100 meters) is dangerous. If you want to survive, fly much lower, lower! Even if someone criminally intelligent upstairs doesn’t think so. Guys, take care!
Former head of the Ilyushin design bureau, son of Dmitry Rogozin Alexander Rogozin :
“The highest degree of knowledge of the plans of the RF Armed Forces, the arrival of new equipment, including cruise missiles capable of attacking our critical targets from the rear, again and again raises the question of how we plan to win. There are three answers: resource advantage <…>technology advantage <…>advantage in motivation and intelligence. <…> It is necessary to appoint the most motivated and capable to the first positions – those who have understood everything for a long time and who do not need to be told why we are fighting. Then we will win.”
Military chain”military informant » :
“Before the start of large-scale hostilities on the territory of Ukraine, our aviation had not experienced such one-time losses for more than half a century. Presumably, from the time of the war of attrition between Egypt and Israel, in which the USSR also participated. <…> Today we immediately lost 4 sides from the actions of the enemy, which Air Force General Konashenkov almost completely “destroyed” on March 6, 2022.”
Former Minister of Information of the DPR Daniel Bezsonov :
“The enemy, most likely, knew the route and departure time of our aviation group. In this particular case, as in some previous cases, military counterintelligence officers should understand. I believe that they will succeed. <…>
It has long been interesting to pay attention to the previously published facts about the strange behavior of the aviation command. For example, when pilots took off from combat sorties to study song.
Or, when the pilots were ordered to fly at an altitude of at least 200 meters, which is, to put it mildly, dangerous in the conditions of active enemy air defense.
Former Minister of Defense of the Donetsk People’s Republic Igor Girkin (Strelkov) :
“As a professional, I can only appreciate the brilliant operation of disrespectful Ukrainian colleagues regarding the unique one-day destruction of 4 air targets by means of MANPADS in our deep rear. Good job (unfortunately for me).
Military chain”Novorossiya militia reports » :
“Our aerospace forces regularly attacked the Chernihiv and Sumy regions, passing through the same routes. In principle, there is nothing wrong with that. In addition to the fact that for some reason it was done in a relaxed way and without considering that the ridges could do anything. <…> Result, we have 4 lost cars and 9 dead drivers.
Blogger Marat Bashirov (Politjoystick/Politjoystic Channel):
“They sank the cruiser Moskva”, they did not answer. They blew up the Crimean Bridge – they did not respond. They carried out terrorist attacks on Dugina, Tatarsky and Prilepin – they did not respond. They blasted officials who believed us and started working in new territories – they did not respond. Drones attacked the Kremlin – they did not respond. They bombed the Zaporizhzhia and Kursk nuclear power plants – they did not respond. They bombed our strategic planes – they did not respond.
Yes, for the 8 years we haven’t answered anything and we don’t answer during SVO.
Today our helicopters and bombers were shot down over the Bryansk region. … You will begin to see conspiracy and betrayal here.
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